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Item Weight 13.3 Pounds
Product Dimensions 24"L x 10"W x 11"H
Chain Length 18 Inches

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  • 42cc, 2-stroke engine with 18" Bar
  • Ideal for medium-duty storm clean-up, cutting firewood, and felling trees
  • Includes: Carry Case, Extra Chain, Built-in Scrench, 2-Stroke Oil
  • Power source type: Gas
  • Trouble shooting steps: Scroll down the catalog for user manual

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The PR4218 is 42cc 2-cycle chainsaw is ideal for medium-duty storm clean-up, tree felling and firewood cutting. The OxyPower engine Provides more power, lower emission levels and lower fuel consumption. Fully featured with Super Clean Air Filter System, Automatic Oiler and Reduced Vibration Handles.

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4.1 out of 5 stars
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Customers say

Customers like the cutting power and performance of the chainsaw. For example, they say it's lightweight and efficient. Customers are also impresseded with the value. That said, some complain about the power and stability of the product. They say, for example, it wouldn't stay running and the chain wouldn' t stop. Opinions are mixed on the weight, ease of starting, and quality.

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58 customers mention54 positive4 negative

Customers appreciate the value of the chainsaw. They say it is a good product for the price, a money saver, and looks nice for the value. Some customers also mention that the case is cheap.

"...Find a good brand and stick with it. Anyway a decent chainsaw for the money for light to medium duty, tho I have felled a few big-uns with it...." Read more

"...My neighbor's Homelite could not even scratch the tree. Good saw for the money overall...." Read more

"...It came with a replacement Oregon chain and some oil. Pretty good for 150 bucks. I don't use a chainsaw but once or twice a year usually...." Read more

"...He really likes this new one and it was a great price too." Read more

53 customers mention50 positive3 negative

Customers are satisfied with the performance of the chainsaw. They mention that it works great out of the box, has continued to do so for a while, and has no issues so far. The choke works right, and restarts correctly as instructed. Overall, most are happy with their purchase and recommend it to others.

"Starts, choke works right, restarts correctly as instructed. Holds power through the cut. I've only used it for about 5 hours.Dislikes:..." Read more

"...I only use premix fuel and these saws always start easy and run great. Above all avoid any fuel containing ethanol...." Read more

"...Well it surprised because one what I paid and two its performance is awesome...." Read more

"...I need to tweak the carb again. Then it ran wonderfully. A very strange, finicky little saw...." Read more

33 customers mention27 positive6 negative

Customers like the cutting power of the chainsaw. They say it has plenty of power to easily cut through trees and branches. Some customers also mention that it is lightweight yet cuts like a bigger machine. The chainsaw is efficient and starts easily. Some say it works well out of the box and can cut through oak like butter.

"...It is good quality, it runs great and cuts excellent." Read more

"...it cuts fast because of this but it must put a great strain on the clutch. The blade is also very soft metal...." Read more

"...It came with a "skip tooth" chain. They cut much faster. Appreciated the case, extra chain, and oil for gas mixing...." Read more

"...Idled when I set it down liked it was supposed to and cut all the branches with no problems. I was impressed with what the saw could do...." Read more

102 customers mention54 positive48 negative

Customers are mixed about the quality of the chainsaw. Some mention it's a very good product, reliable, and goes strong. Others say it had a low quality chain and was not worth fixing.

"...It is good quality, it runs great and cuts excellent." Read more

"...OEM bar on this is very cheap, vibrated upon first use. Use ANY bar oil you choose. Mine also would not idle so a carb adj. was needed...." Read more

"...I was impressed with what the saw could do. For an inexpensive saw it does everything that the more expensive saws do for about half the price...." Read more

"...Maybe this was a fluke on my saw. When the saw ran, it smoked heavily and stunk like burnt plastic. I emptied all of the fluids and put in mine...." Read more

71 customers mention42 positive29 negative

Customers are mixed about the ease of starting the chainsaw. Some mention it starts easily, runs smooth, and has plenty of power. However, others say that it struggles to start, has some problems with starting and running, and never started.

"Starts, choke works right, restarts correctly as instructed. Holds power through the cut. I've only used it for about 5 hours.Dislikes:..." Read more

"...This chain-saw was brought brand new out of the box, it started briefly and then it stopped, started again the second time and then got engaged,..." Read more

"...Once these chainsaws go through a break-in period, they start easily, idle great and run well. I recommend these to everyone." Read more

"The saw itself started with little difficulty and worked fine. The case is on the light (cheap side). The zip tie had pulled through the "look" tab...." Read more

16 customers mention11 positive5 negative

Customers are mixed about the weight of the chainsaw. Some mention that it is lightweight yet cuts like a bigger machine, the case material is definitely lighter than my older Poulan Pro 220 16" case, and it's easy to carry around. That said, some say that it'll run like if it was a large paperweight.

"...The case material is definitely lighter than my older Poulan Pro 220 16" case. I guess it will work,,,maybe...." Read more

"...It was easy to carry around being so light weight. Started right up everytime I got to another tree and cut with ease...." Read more

"...It is a little heave at 13+ pounds but not a big deal. It was a little temperamental restarting it after running it a while, then letting it sit...." Read more

"Nice little chainsaw not too heavy starts up easily cuts would great. Best part made in the USA 🇺🇸..." Read more

78 customers mention14 positive64 negative

Customers are dissatisfied with the power of the chainsaw. They mention that it would not stay running, idle for 10 seconds, and die. Some say that it only worked for a couple of runs and then couldn't stay on.

"...Use ANY bar oil you choose. Mine also would not idle so a carb adj. was needed...." Read more

"...was brought brand new out of the box, it started briefly and then it stopped, started again the second time and then got engaged, stalled, and will..." Read more

"...It took a while to get it to run and when it did it ran well for a while. After about 20 minutes it started bogging down and stalling...." Read more

"...Here's what happened: Product only worked for a couple of runs and then couldnt stay on or get started again. Bad parts or settings I assume...." Read more

43 customers mention0 positive43 negative

Customers are dissatisfied with the stability of the chainsaw. They mention that the throttle stalls out, it won't stay at idle, and the chain would not stop. Some say that the chain starts coming off after two hours.

"...I've only used it for about 5 hours.Dislikes:The tool can fall out at the worst times. Already lost one and wasted some time...." Read more

"...Also, If You're Cutting The Fallen Small Limbs Often Times It Falls Out and I Have Had To Go Back Through the Limbs and Find It...." Read more

"...then it stopped, started again the second time and then got engaged, stalled, and will no longer run...." Read more

"...Before I had barely started the second tank of fuel it wouldn't idle and was smoking with blue smoke...." Read more

Poulan Pro PR4218
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Poulan Pro PR4218
I Have Had Many Of These. I Think The {PR} 4218 is Better than the Previous {PP} 4218.I Read A Lot Of Bad Reviews, Saying Stuff Like They Are Hard To Crank.I Haven't Had That Experience. Use Only Non-Ethanol Gas On Any Chainsaw and Only Use Poulan Pro Bar and Chain Oil, (Not Just Poulan, but Poulan Pro Bar And Chain Oil ~ Poulan Pro 952030204 Bar and Chain Oil - Save Money By Buying It By The Gallon $18.46)https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005K8Y0X0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1Also Only Use Poulan Pro Oil For the Gas Mixture. It Says that I Can Run On a 50:1 Gas / Oil Mixture, but I Run Mine A Little Richer, (Because The Older PP Model Said To Run It On a 40:1 Gas / Oil Mixture) and The Chainsaw Lasts Longer Years With A Little Richer Mix, (Even If It Says That With the Synthetic Oil You Can Run It at 50:1 Gas / Oil Mixture). I'm Not a Big Fan Of Synthetic Oil, So I Find The Original Poulan Pro Poulan WeedEater 40:1 And I Use That Instead of the Synthetic Oil 50:1 Gal / Oil Mixture.Then Follow The Instructions Written Right On the Chainsaw. It Said To Pump the Gas 10 Times, {On the PP Models}, It Says Pump The Gas 6 Times on The Newer Model #967063801. What I Find If The Temperature Is 70 Degrees Plus, Then Pumping the Gas 6 Times Is Enough. Then Pull The Choke All The Way Out And Lightly Pull The Cord 5 Times, (Again, If the Temperature Is Moderate, You Can Lightly Pull The Cord Only 2-4 Times, Usually 3 Times). When You Feel The Compression Tugging Against Your Pull and It Makes a Sound Like It Almost Wants To Crank, Maybe Lightly Pull Just One More Time and Then Bump The Choke With Your Thump To Half Choke, {If the Choke Goes All The Way In, Then Pull The Choke Adjustment Control and And Bump It Back to Half-Choke} and Then Lock The Chainsaw Between Your Knees and Pull Hard With Your Right Hand and It Cranks Right Away. After The Chainsaw Is Warmed Up, Unless You Open The Gas Cap and Let The Vacuum Escape, You Can Just Go Immediately To Half-Choke and Crank With Having To Pump Up The Gas, {Unless You Let The Chainsaw Sit For a Few Minutes or If The Temperature Is Very Cold}.This Poulan Pro PR4218 Comes With A Scrench, {SCrewDriver ~ wRENCH Combo}, and a Built-In Holder and This Is So Awesome and Very Convenient. However, If You Are Sawing Way Up In the Air On A Tree Branch, and It Falls Out, You May Lose It or Need It. Also, If You're Cutting The Fallen Small Limbs Often Times It Falls Out and I Have Had To Go Back Through the Limbs and Find It. So, I Just Store Mine In the Case From Now On. [You Might Could Device A Way For It To Stay In Place, Or Duck Tape It... But Then It Would Get Sticky].One Other Note: If You Are Cutting A Large Limb Way Up High Or On A Ladder, Then The Light Weight of This Chainsaw Is A Plus. There Are Bigger Chainsaws Like Stihl & Husqvarna, and Even a 20" Poulan... and They Cut Faster, But, When I Make The Undercut on a Large Limp, I Prefer Going a Little Slower So That I Don't Accidently Cut Too Much and Pinch The Limb and Get the Chainsaw Stuck, And Those Chainsaws That Cut Like Butter, Usually Weigh A Lot More, and That's also More Weight To Carry Up the Tree and More Weight To Handle.One Last Note: If You Are Cutting The Large Branches, Keep the Chainsaw Snug With About 3/4" Play on The Chain, but If You Are Cutting A Lot Of the Smaller Limbs Stacked On Top Of Each Other, then Keep the Chainsaw Very Tight With Only an 1/4 Inch Play, {The Chain Will Also Tighten Up If It Gets Hot, So You Might Have To Loosen The Chain After It Gets Hot and Then Go Again}.Bonus:Use Stihl Chains: They Have More Steel On Each Tooth and Therefore Last A Lot Longer.But Not All Stihl 18 Chains Will Work, They Have To Be, "Picco" Which Mean "Micro". They Now Put "Micro" On the Box.Oilomatic STIHL Part #: 3613-005-0062 ~ STIHL 18" CHAIN LOOP (.375 X .050) 63PMC 62 DL ~ (63 PMC 62) ~ Picco Micro, {Cuts Faster, Dulls Faster}... This Is My Preferred Chain.Oilomatic STIHL Part #: 3636-005-0062 ~ STIHL 18" CHAIN LOOP (.375 X .050) 63PMC3 62 DL ~ Picco Micro, {$22.82}, {Cuts A Little Slower, Stays Sharp Longer}Oilomatic STIHL Part #: 3616-005-0062 ~ PS3 ~ {Saftey Chain ~ Cuts A Little Slower, Stays Sharp Longer}One Last Thing, At the Beginning or at End of The Cutting Season, Put In an Ounce or so Of Berryman Products B-12 Chemtool Carburetor, or Sea Foam Motor Treatment, {Both Are Great}, Because Gas that Sits Around Tends To Turn to a Varnishing Is A Gummy Residue That Clogs The Generator Carburetor And Fuel Pump. You Even Do This More Often, but It Will Make The Chainsaw Smoke, and Don't Rev It Up But Let It Idle For A While, {You Might Have To Manually Control The Idle}.Which Reminds Me Of One Con. This Poulan Pro PR4218 Chainsaw Doesn't Idle Well, and Usually Stalls. But, that Is Alright With Me, As I Don't Want It Idling Up In a Tree or on Top Of a Ladder. When I'm Done, I Use the Kill Switch. But, It Will Idle for a Couple of Minutes, Long Enough to Go From My Bottom Cut To the Final Cut. You Can Adjust The Idle, But It Might Change How Rich The Fuel Is. I Figure That Poulan Knows The Right Amount Richness.Advice: Consider Buying Chainsaw Chaps. It's A Good Idea To Wear a Face Shield All The Time, But Especially If Working Overhead, Wear Goggles or a Safety Helmet With A Shield or an N-95 Dusk Mask or You'll Get SawDusk Shot Into Your Face and Eyes, The Helmet and Screen Shields Don't Fog Up. Most Leg Injuries Occur On The Legs. Run The Saw Right Up To The Teeth on the Saw and Let The Saw Do The Work. To Avoid Kickbacks, Don't Use The Tip of the Bar. Aim the Saw So that If It Does Kick Back, It Will Come to the Right Of Your Head Near Your Shoulder and Not Your Face. Know Where the The Brake and The Kill Switch Is. Wear Gloves and Be Familiar With How To Bump the Brake To Off With The Back Of Your Hand. Use Your Middle Finger For The Throttle as It Is More Comfortable. Always Plan Your Escape Route and Make Sure That There Are No Obstacles or Limbs In Your Way, (You Might Have To Stop and Pick Up Limbs or Have a Helper To Get The Limbs Out Of The Way and Wait On Them To Clear the Area Before You Engage Again}.TR Industrial Forestry Safety Helmet and Hearing Protection System (Orange)https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00REG8JNS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?smid=A2ZSTDEXO9VTZF&th=1
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I Have Had Many Of These. I Think The {PR} 4218 is Better than the Previous {PP} 4218.

I Read A Lot Of Bad Reviews, Saying Stuff Like They Are Hard To Crank.

I Haven't Had That Experience. Use Only Non-Ethanol Gas On Any Chainsaw and Only Use Poulan Pro Bar and Chain Oil, (Not Just Poulan, but Poulan Pro Bar And Chain Oil ~ Poulan Pro 952030204 Bar and Chain Oil - Save Money By Buying It By The Gallon $18.46)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005K8Y0X0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Also Only Use Poulan Pro Oil For the Gas Mixture. It Says that I Can Run On a 50:1 Gas / Oil Mixture, but I Run Mine A Little Richer, (Because The Older PP Model Said To Run It On a 40:1 Gas / Oil Mixture) and The Chainsaw Lasts Longer Years With A Little Richer Mix, (Even If It Says That With the Synthetic Oil You Can Run It at 50:1 Gas / Oil Mixture). I'm Not a Big Fan Of Synthetic Oil, So I Find The Original Poulan Pro Poulan WeedEater 40:1 And I Use That Instead of the Synthetic Oil 50:1 Gal / Oil Mixture.

Then Follow The Instructions Written Right On the Chainsaw. It Said To Pump the Gas 10 Times, {On the PP Models}, It Says Pump The Gas 6 Times on The Newer Model #967063801. What I Find If The Temperature Is 70 Degrees Plus, Then Pumping the Gas 6 Times Is Enough. Then Pull The Choke All The Way Out And Lightly Pull The Cord 5 Times, (Again, If the Temperature Is Moderate, You Can Lightly Pull The Cord Only 2-4 Times, Usually 3 Times). When You Feel The Compression Tugging Against Your Pull and It Makes a Sound Like It Almost Wants To Crank, Maybe Lightly Pull Just One More Time and Then Bump The Choke With Your Thump To Half Choke, {If the Choke Goes All The Way In, Then Pull The Choke Adjustment Control and And Bump It Back to Half-Choke} and Then Lock The Chainsaw Between Your Knees and Pull Hard With Your Right Hand and It Cranks Right Away. After The Chainsaw Is Warmed Up, Unless You Open The Gas Cap and Let The Vacuum Escape, You Can Just Go Immediately To Half-Choke and Crank With Having To Pump Up The Gas, {Unless You Let The Chainsaw Sit For a Few Minutes or If The Temperature Is Very Cold}.

This Poulan Pro PR4218 Comes With A Scrench, {SCrewDriver ~ wRENCH Combo}, and a Built-In Holder and This Is So Awesome and Very Convenient. However, If You Are Sawing Way Up In the Air On A Tree Branch, and It Falls Out, You May Lose It or Need It. Also, If You're Cutting The Fallen Small Limbs Often Times It Falls Out and I Have Had To Go Back Through the Limbs and Find It. So, I Just Store Mine In the Case From Now On. [You Might Could Device A Way For It To Stay In Place, Or Duck Tape It... But Then It Would Get Sticky].

One Other Note: If You Are Cutting A Large Limb Way Up High Or On A Ladder, Then The Light Weight of This Chainsaw Is A Plus. There Are Bigger Chainsaws Like Stihl & Husqvarna, and Even a 20" Poulan... and They Cut Faster, But, When I Make The Undercut on a Large Limp, I Prefer Going a Little Slower So That I Don't Accidently Cut Too Much and Pinch The Limb and Get the Chainsaw Stuck, And Those Chainsaws That Cut Like Butter, Usually Weigh A Lot More, and That's also More Weight To Carry Up the Tree and More Weight To Handle.

One Last Note: If You Are Cutting The Large Branches, Keep the Chainsaw Snug With About 3/4" Play on The Chain, but If You Are Cutting A Lot Of the Smaller Limbs Stacked On Top Of Each Other, then Keep the Chainsaw Very Tight With Only an 1/4 Inch Play, {The Chain Will Also Tighten Up If It Gets Hot, So You Might Have To Loosen The Chain After It Gets Hot and Then Go Again}.

Bonus:
Use Stihl Chains: They Have More Steel On Each Tooth and Therefore Last A Lot Longer.

But Not All Stihl 18 Chains Will Work, They Have To Be, "Picco" Which Mean "Micro". They Now Put "Micro" On the Box.

Oilomatic STIHL Part #: 3613-005-0062 ~ STIHL 18" CHAIN LOOP (.375 X .050) 63PMC 62 DL ~ (63 PMC 62) ~ Picco Micro, {Cuts Faster, Dulls Faster}... This Is My Preferred Chain.

Oilomatic STIHL Part #: 3636-005-0062 ~ STIHL 18" CHAIN LOOP (.375 X .050) 63PMC3 62 DL ~ Picco Micro, {$22.82}, {Cuts A Little Slower, Stays Sharp Longer}
Oilomatic STIHL Part #: 3616-005-0062 ~ PS3 ~ {Saftey Chain ~ Cuts A Little Slower, Stays Sharp Longer}

One Last Thing, At the Beginning or at End of The Cutting Season, Put In an Ounce or so Of Berryman Products B-12 Chemtool Carburetor, or Sea Foam Motor Treatment, {Both Are Great}, Because Gas that Sits Around Tends To Turn to a Varnishing Is A Gummy Residue That Clogs The Generator Carburetor And Fuel Pump. You Even Do This More Often, but It Will Make The Chainsaw Smoke, and Don't Rev It Up But Let It Idle For A While, {You Might Have To Manually Control The Idle}.

Which Reminds Me Of One Con. This Poulan Pro PR4218 Chainsaw Doesn't Idle Well, and Usually Stalls. But, that Is Alright With Me, As I Don't Want It Idling Up In a Tree or on Top Of a Ladder. When I'm Done, I Use the Kill Switch. But, It Will Idle for a Couple of Minutes, Long Enough to Go From My Bottom Cut To the Final Cut. You Can Adjust The Idle, But It Might Change How Rich The Fuel Is. I Figure That Poulan Knows The Right Amount Richness.

Advice: Consider Buying Chainsaw Chaps. It's A Good Idea To Wear a Face Shield All The Time, But Especially If Working Overhead, Wear Goggles or a Safety Helmet With A Shield or an N-95 Dusk Mask or You'll Get SawDusk Shot Into Your Face and Eyes, The Helmet and Screen Shields Don't Fog Up. Most Leg Injuries Occur On The Legs. Run The Saw Right Up To The Teeth on the Saw and Let The Saw Do The Work. To Avoid Kickbacks, Don't Use The Tip of the Bar. Aim the Saw So that If It Does Kick Back, It Will Come to the Right Of Your Head Near Your Shoulder and Not Your Face. Know Where the The Brake and The Kill Switch Is. Wear Gloves and Be Familiar With How To Bump the Brake To Off With The Back Of Your Hand. Use Your Middle Finger For The Throttle as It Is More Comfortable. Always Plan Your Escape Route and Make Sure That There Are No Obstacles or Limbs In Your Way, (You Might Have To Stop and Pick Up Limbs or Have a Helper To Get The Limbs Out Of The Way and Wait On Them To Clear the Area Before You Engage Again}.

TR Industrial Forestry Safety Helmet and Hearing Protection System (Orange)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00REG8JNS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?smid=A2ZSTDEXO9VTZF&th=1
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